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We expect American politicians to value American workers over Mexican workers. The morality you outlined here suggests that our elected officials should be able to brag every time a factory leaves the US - “I created 1600 jobs for Mexicans!” Not going to happen, nor should it. Some things are zero sum. Carrier needed one factory. If it’s located in Mexico, then Americans don’t have those jobs.

Politicians do create jobs. What happens in the job market in the country is not simply the result of massive forces out of anyone’s control; they are the result of policy decisions. Sometimes policy decisions have unforeseen results, sometimes policy decisions have to balance competing needs, sometimes your hands are tied and policy has to move in a particular direction. But the hollowing out of our industrial base was not due to inevitable economic hurricane winds against which nothing can stand. They were due to political decisions embraced by both parties in the US for generations.

Policy decisions are going to come down to cost/benefit analysis. If you believe that spending $250,000 a year to keep X jobs in the US isn’t worth it, fine. But the fundamental equation is still the right way - the only way - for this to work. If the government is going to help keep good paying, working class jobs in the US the method by which it is going to make that happen is to spend money. The power of the purse is the only tool in its box.

Some else of what you wrote at the end misunderstands why people react so poorly to an air conditioner plant shutting down. We’ve been hearing variations of the “don’t worry about the coal mine shutting down, the solar power battery factories will make up for it” for closing in on a hundred years. The implied promise goes unfulfilled every time. Those great jobs that are right around the corner never appear, and the old jobs that provided a solid wage for American workers vanish. It’s a matter of trust, which again comes down to policies, not a question of misunderstanding abstract economic theory. Praxis is what matters in the end.

The rest of your essay was very funny and interesting, particularly the criticism of the DeV essay for focusing on messaging rather than policy. Thanks for posting it. I would argue, though, that running working class candidates is the BEST idea that came out of the DeVabbott essay. You’re 100% correct that it would fly in the face of the entirety of democratic history until now, but it seems like an idea worth trying. At some point the government needs to reflect the needs of the working class, and maybe having them at the table is the best way for this to happen.

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Having spent 5 decades now as a blue-collar working class schmoe doing my skilled trades thing both directly in and around the domestic auto industry in between layoffs and job losses, I've come to put precious little stock in jobs rhetoric from politicians. They start talkin' jobs and I hear blah blah blah. A smart and truly cogent and effective jobs policy would be a smart thing to do. Maybe one day they'll do it. Even if only by accident.

Meantime, having watched the steady and inexorable job-policy-resistant downsizing of this particular segment of the manufacturing base of the country for decades, if as a politician you want to get my attention as a working-class voter (frankly, at this point I'm a one-issue voter, and that issue is, for lack of a better description, *democracy*, but I digress), talk about doing something that will have an immediate and direct beneficial impact on myself and all other working-class people who *are* in fact working. There's more than a few of us doing that these days, it seems.

Do something about the fucking tax code. And maybe if you simply cannot manage to spend a bit less of the tax revenues flowing into the government coffers, spend them at least a bit more, oh, I don't know... prudently? Those $600 toilet seats of nostalgic by-gone days must be at least a couple of grand or more by now, what with inflation and supply chain issues and all. So maybe you could just go with unisex or uni-gender or omnigender or whatever bathrooms in all government facilities, saving a shit load of bucks and having the added advantage of putting to rest the question of who gets to pee where.

As for the tax code, I'm tempted to say "soak the rich" and give me a break, but that rhetoric is about as useful as jobs-blah-jobs-blah-jobs. However, it might be useful if the pols actually acknowledged in some real and meaningful way that the widening wealth inequity in this country and its deleterious effects is not a sole product of genius-like business acumen by the businessmen in the upper reaches of the capitalist / corporate heap. It's the genius-like acumen of their tax guys that contributes mightily to their bottom lines, both corporate and personal, as well. I'm seriously more than just a little tired of my feet being soaked by the trickle-down economics of these folks and their ilk casually pissing on my boots while the pols hold their dicks, all of them telling me all the while that it's a passing rain shower.

Speaking of dicks, I recall Jack Welch (anybody out there remember him?) bragging, in a year when GE made something on the order of $43 Billion with a B in profits, that the company paid the amazing, eye-popping total of Zero with a Z in federal taxes. Proud as a peacock of that, he was. But probably no more so than of his own personal return on the 1040 EZ he probably picked up from his local H&R Block on his way home after work.

But I'm proud to have done my patriotic duty by contributing to GE's bottom line that year in my own small way as a working-class *taxpayer*, even though I'd have preferred to do it the old-fashioned way by buying one of their products.

Maybe if I didn't have to pay a third of every damned penny I earn in taxes, I could more easily afford to park a new jet engine in my garage.

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