Not hot, no fiddle — a real downer of an interaction front to back. I re-listened to that section of the podcast just now and you’re right, I am absolutely questioning whether I did the right thing, I clearly feel a need to justify my actions. So there’s a window into the liberal mind.
I’m one of those liberals who has the “maybe I should not call the police” instincts.
When I reflect on why… it goes back to a specific news story in which the police knocked down the door of some black family’s house and killed one of the adults because I think the neighbors called the cops due to shouting noises.
And all I could think was: I’m glad if I’m a bit noisy, my neighbors aren’t going to call the cops or even if they do, there’s a high likelihood the cops won’t shoot me in my own house. It must suck to not even be safe in your own house due to the color of your skin.
I wish the state of our policing was not such that it carried such a risk with it. But that’s where the instinct comes from.
“Am I making this worse? Am I about to be the cause of someone getting shot?”
It’s not that I think rules and social norms don’t matter. They do. And they should be imposed. I just wish I trusted our police more.
Okay, so I know you're not a policy wonk, you just said so. Unfortunately, it shows. Most metropolitan areas aren't confined to one state. Mine's in three different ones and let me tell you, the laws in WV are rather different from the ones in Pennsylvania -- and Ohio has its own set.
Once you've put the burden on the metro, you're way into "puppy shelters" territory. But people really like puppies, and so relatively few people create no-kill puppy shelters in order to get the most dogs murdered (The no-kill shelter is actually for cats, and they're treated very well) by the "definitely kills dogs" city-run shelter down the street.
I went to LA, and it was like magic -- there were Absolutely No Homeless. Of course, the next day there was Bernie Sanders, and he looks kinda like a homeless guy... (Or Paul Volcker).
As stripping naked and running screaming into the most populated nearby space was a bonafide symptom of covid19 (generally done by very fat people), we have a lot of recorded evidence that people don't generally call the police in these cases. Most of the time they call the store manager (who may summon the police if they cannot contain the problematic individual).
That said, this lady was outside, and I take it you don't have beat cops at the preschool. Calling the police is finding the people best equipped to deal with "Person having a Very Bad Day."
I don't think you should feel the need to justify your actions. You aren't calling the police on a kid playing in the greenspace unsupervised. You aren't calling the police on the canvasser, or on your neighbor because he parked you in.
There are legitimate times when people decide to call the police, and maybe they ought not. Always assume the police may make whatever problem worse, and that may also include "making your day worse" if you caused them to have to do work.
E.G. Calling the police because a homeless man is starting a fire in 20 degree weather, got the police to show up, douse the fire, and leave the man there -- presumably to freeze to death for all they cared (note: I don't know laws on involuntary mental incarceration, or dragging him off to jail. but it was COLD outside).
another good reason to call the cops on a naked screaming woman is you don’t know if she escaped an attacker or some shit
i follow true crime (like a ton of women) and there have been plenty of times when a naked victim breaks away and screams in terror
or perhaps she was being attacked by a domestic partner and hid naked for her safety. You never know.
psychotic break or not, call the cops i totally agree
Wait. They allow walking in
Beverly Hills?
I mean just barely; I got off the bus in Century City.
No Jeff, you did the right thing and the fact you had to explain your actions makes me sad.
But you left off the most important
part: was she hot!!??
And what kind of clothes did she put on? Was it hobo couture?
Did she have a fiddle?
Asking for a friend.....
Not hot, no fiddle — a real downer of an interaction front to back. I re-listened to that section of the podcast just now and you’re right, I am absolutely questioning whether I did the right thing, I clearly feel a need to justify my actions. So there’s a window into the liberal mind.
Wow, I’m really sorry you had that interaction.
I’m one of those liberals who has the “maybe I should not call the police” instincts.
When I reflect on why… it goes back to a specific news story in which the police knocked down the door of some black family’s house and killed one of the adults because I think the neighbors called the cops due to shouting noises.
And all I could think was: I’m glad if I’m a bit noisy, my neighbors aren’t going to call the cops or even if they do, there’s a high likelihood the cops won’t shoot me in my own house. It must suck to not even be safe in your own house due to the color of your skin.
I wish the state of our policing was not such that it carried such a risk with it. But that’s where the instinct comes from.
“Am I making this worse? Am I about to be the cause of someone getting shot?”
It’s not that I think rules and social norms don’t matter. They do. And they should be imposed. I just wish I trusted our police more.
I didn’t feel this way when I lived in Canada.
Jeff,
Okay, so I know you're not a policy wonk, you just said so. Unfortunately, it shows. Most metropolitan areas aren't confined to one state. Mine's in three different ones and let me tell you, the laws in WV are rather different from the ones in Pennsylvania -- and Ohio has its own set.
Once you've put the burden on the metro, you're way into "puppy shelters" territory. But people really like puppies, and so relatively few people create no-kill puppy shelters in order to get the most dogs murdered (The no-kill shelter is actually for cats, and they're treated very well) by the "definitely kills dogs" city-run shelter down the street.
I went to LA, and it was like magic -- there were Absolutely No Homeless. Of course, the next day there was Bernie Sanders, and he looks kinda like a homeless guy... (Or Paul Volcker).
As stripping naked and running screaming into the most populated nearby space was a bonafide symptom of covid19 (generally done by very fat people), we have a lot of recorded evidence that people don't generally call the police in these cases. Most of the time they call the store manager (who may summon the police if they cannot contain the problematic individual).
That said, this lady was outside, and I take it you don't have beat cops at the preschool. Calling the police is finding the people best equipped to deal with "Person having a Very Bad Day."
I don't think you should feel the need to justify your actions. You aren't calling the police on a kid playing in the greenspace unsupervised. You aren't calling the police on the canvasser, or on your neighbor because he parked you in.
There are legitimate times when people decide to call the police, and maybe they ought not. Always assume the police may make whatever problem worse, and that may also include "making your day worse" if you caused them to have to do work.
E.G. Calling the police because a homeless man is starting a fire in 20 degree weather, got the police to show up, douse the fire, and leave the man there -- presumably to freeze to death for all they cared (note: I don't know laws on involuntary mental incarceration, or dragging him off to jail. but it was COLD outside).
https://open.substack.com/pub/sergemil/p/how-the-british-cultivated-the-devil?r=3znpi3&utm_medium=ios
ty cobb was not a racist he was slandered by a biographer after his death.