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JorgeGeorge's avatar

Sometimes you have to let the child touch the hot stove so the lesson will sink in.....

Jeff Maurer's avatar

Though I worry we might have “kids” (leftists) who will touch the hot stove and then keep right on touching it. This is an evidence-averse crowd.

adso's avatar

Bold of you to assume that “winning elections to effect policy change” is what’s driving DSA voters. It’s power and status within the organization (The Democratic Party) that they crave.

They’d be happy to lose every election for a decade as long as they get to hold the purse strings and the megaphone.

James Gillen's avatar

If Republicans know that extremists are poison in general elections compared to moderates, why do they themselves pick the biggest whackos in the country during their primaries?

Jeff Maurer's avatar

This is also a dilemma! And I think the answer is the same as on the Democratic side: The primary process is a problem. It attracts extremists. Second problem is that after such a long era of crazy, there just aren’t many sane Republicans left.

Tom's avatar
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Also, gerrymandering. If your party's candidate is practically guaranteed a win in the general election, there is no reason to even consider whether the squishy middle will vote for the candidate or not.

forumposter123@protonmail.com's avatar

The purpose of elections is to change policy. Electing another Bush or Romney doesn’t get you immigration enforcement, anti-woke, anti-COVID, or universal school choice.

Your problem is that the policies that a lot of people in your party want are just bad but keeping them in your coalition requires throwing them bones now and again.

Shaun's avatar

Why do I know that if my neighbour wants to lose weight he should stop snacking on junk food, but I still find myself microwaving buttered popcorn at 10 pm when I'm peckish?

ajlr's avatar

Some of those people famously lost in humiliating fashion!

GuyInPlace's avatar

"I'm not a witch!"

ajlr's avatar

I miss her 😔

Grisha G's avatar

Same reason Dems pick weirdos - primaries favor in-group signaling because the people who show up to vote in them are a highly selected subset of the party.

GuyInPlace's avatar

An annoying fact that Democrats just need to deal with is that Republican crazies are more electorally viable than Democratic crazies. It's not fair, but it's just life.

Tom's avatar

That tweet about Thanksgiving. Good night, lady, if someone challenged you to pack as many 2020 progressive cliches into 280 characters as possible, you didn't have to take them up on it, and you certainly didn't need to post it in public. That's the kind of thing you post on the internal group chat.

(I think the "folx and women" is the best part. Very "World Ends: Marginalized Gender Identities Hardest Hit.)

GuyInPlace's avatar

The whole "folks" and "folx" stuff from a certain brand of leftist is just weird. Nobody talks like this unless they're in super-specific activist circles. Nobody is asking them to do this.

Tom's avatar

It's also annoying for those of us who used the word "folks" before the activists appropriated it.

GuyInPlace's avatar

I wonder if the Bush "Group of folks" line about al-Qaida was so weird it just opened up the word to be taken over by any weirdness.

Ben's avatar
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My random and disjointed thoughts: 1) the DSA platform is politically gamma-level radioactive; 2) calling balls and strikes here: prominent Muslim DSA or DSA adjacent politicians give MAGA grist at the national level at the worst possible moment: 3) the “Democratic Establishment” has been pathetic and ineffective at stopping tangibly pestilential MAGA/Trump: 4) I find some (not most) farther left politicians to be pretty damn galvanizing. You underestimate AOC at your peril. I could go but I think you get the picture. And apart from one overriding thought, I’m very confused and that thought is this: a cohesive united Front is vital in stopping Trump and MAGA.

Brent Nyitray's avatar

Hong plays well in Madison. Not so sure about Manitowoc though.

Andrew's avatar

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Pan Narrans's avatar

Ah, but Hong will rid us of the scourge that is Halloween, saving me from having to pretend to be out of the house on October 31st so I don't have to hand out sweets to the scruffy neighbourhood kids!

GuyInPlace's avatar

What's the point of being a bartender if you're anti-fun? Why is every answer she gives to every question just like 15 percent weirder than it needs to be?

Jeff Maurer's avatar

Her restaurant failed — maybe we know why!

Greg P.'s avatar

Jimmy Stewart obviously would have made a fortune on Only Fans though.

Erika's avatar

Maybe we should just get rid of primaries and have everyone run in a general election with ranked choice voting. Maybe we'd get saner results?

Roberto's avatar

Hong and her hard leftists are just more "into it" than the rest of you. She's found a way to bag the slog of the restaurant business, find her inner theatre kid, and make money (eventually). She honestly hates us, so there's clarity there.

Andrew's avatar

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Syd Griffin's avatar

There's a few problems here. A big one, as noted today, is that "far" left candidates historically don't win general elections. Fair point, I get it. But another problem needs to be confronted also. Namely, the goddamn "moderates" have done fuck-all when it comes to challenging the reckless, civilization destroying habits of the Trumb administrations I + II. Which to my mind comes down to one simple concept: the all-consuming power of unrestrained wealth, and the havoc it wreaks on civil society. So what's a frustrated prole to do? Well, there's actually an answer to that. Organize. The first step of which is to gather forces, which requires making noise and raising alarms. So there you go, you've been warned!

Keegan's avatar

I might join a movement against the all-consuming power of unrestrained wealth. But not one that also hates me for being white, or expects me to deny the reality of biological sex, or that continually makes excuses for jihadi terrorists. The DSA types seem to think they can "organize" their way out of having to adjust these positions. I guess we'll see if that's true.

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Andrew's avatar

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