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LarryBirdsMoustache's avatar

My personal theory about where a lot of doomerism comes from has two parts:

1) Whatever level of wealth you grew up around feels normal to you, and most people seem to think they grew up "middle class" even if, upon inspection, their parents obviously had a 95th percentile income

2) If your parents have a >50th percentile income growing up, your relative position will be lower than theirs on average. If your parents have a 95th percentile income growing up, your relative position will be much lower than theirs on average unless you go to medical school.

The combination of these two facts means that a bunch of people who grew up pretty well off can only afford a middle class lifestyle rather than a high-upper-middle class-in-NYC lifestyle, and to them that feels like poverty. They'll never be able to afford the kind of house their parents owned in the kind of neighborhood they grew up in.

One of the major tells that this is going on is the big focus on student loans. A lot of people don't go to college, and if your parents are genuinely middle class you almost certainly got in-state tuition at a state school, which is typically less than $15k per year assuming no scholarship or financial aid. All the doomers talking about how tuition is $40k per year and you need to take out $80k of student loans to get a degree don't seem to even be aware that attending a state school is an option, never mind attending a community college and then transferring to a state school.

For an extreme example of this dynamic, I once had somebody from China whose parents paid for them to attend Georgetown for grad school tell me that they grew up "very poor" in China because a lot of the kids at the elite prep schools they attended were richer than them.

All that to say I think doomers are largely the bitter middle class children of upper middle class parents.

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I think the missing piece here, though, especially regarding Gen Z, is housing affordability. When my 72 year old dad was a young man in Dallas, he could buy a single family home in Dallas for about his annual salary, maybe a little more. Almost no one can buy a house anymore for 75,000, and rents can be just as punishing. I agree media doomerism goes too far, but affordability is huge for the kids today.

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