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Lucidamente's avatar

Ms. Günes, my English soccer fan friends want to know if drinking twenty beers, snorting several lines of cocaine, and inserting a lit flare in one’s rectum will help their team win.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/euros-football-fan-flare-bum-32639306

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Edward Scizorhands's avatar

Evidence is "mixed"

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Samuel Emil Marchand's avatar

RFK does want (and is trying to change) the recomendation for COVID vaccines for pregnant women and healthy children, but is facing resistance. It's not so much walking back anything as differant perspectives within an unfinished policy conflict. I do think RFK will succeed in this in time as he has much to back him up, but we'll have to wait and see. For the record he has actually recomended the MMR vaccene. While it is true that RFK Jr. is a vaccine sceptic he is not by any means consistantly anti-vax by the traditional (pre recent pandemic) definition. I do see this larger peace is not all meant to be taken litterally, as in you might be wrong(!), -or making a (half serious) joke that is. Haha!

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Jay Moore's avatar

RFK Jr is a secret progressive eugenicist.

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Edward Scizorhands's avatar

Better than 50/50 chance he calls for puberty blockers to treat autism, so . . . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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naa darkua's avatar

Telling people that this and that is safe and effective when their lived experience is other, is not 'getting ahead'.

Perhaps it would be more credible for the CDC to wait and see what he says, rather than speculating on what he might say in the future.

Nonsense.

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Samuel Emil Marchand's avatar

RFK Jr. is trying to change these recomendations. This wasn't a censere "walkback" but simply those who disagree anouncing their intention to fight his (and his allies) planed changes every step of the way for as long as they can, all the while (at least for now but probably not for long) pretending they are still fully in charge.

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Todd Bauer's avatar

Whoosh

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Seattle Guy's avatar

"their lived experience" = artisian bespoke small batch data? Based on feelings.

People nearly always believe (usually strongly) that their feelings about something outranks the controlled blinded data, and they're always wrong. Be well.

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naa darkua's avatar

Since when did lived experience = feelings? "Always wrong"?

I rank clinical evidence in reall world over RCT anyday.

I will be well, thank you. 🙏🏾

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Seattle Guy's avatar

Kindly, "I took vitamin C and I felt better" is lived experience. Meanwhile, controlled for placebo and other variables, vitamin C (in this example only) has no measurable effect, which is the difference between modern medicine aspirationally and mostly in real life vs lived experience. Be well -

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naa darkua's avatar

If I took a C19 jab and got bells palsy, my lived experience would be that it wasn't safe for me. I would not be 'always wrong' in my experience.

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Seattle Guy's avatar

With kindness, we are not great at this sort of reasoning (none of us are). B followed A, does not mean B caused A. When the animal walks by the fence, where we can only see through a narrow slit, we might reasonably think the nose causes the tail. Someone bought a microwave and had an injury accident on their drive home. Did the microwave cause that?

None of this is new to humanity, we have a pretty good handle on how we repeatedly fool ourselves, and how to correct for that and protect against it. But we all feel like experts, and know more than they do. Be well -

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Jcucci's avatar

What about HGH and phone-boning with reporters? Any advice there?

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C-man's avatar

"a barrel of AIDS" reminds me of Barkley Shut up and Jam: Gaiden's treatment of diabetes as an ailment you can infect someone with via projectile syringe (long story short, Michael Jordan does it to Charles Barkley's son Hoopz, in the post-Jampocalypse setting of Neo-New York).

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Alan Haley's avatar

But we do only have your word for all of those things. Surely your head medical person is more qualified than you?

😂

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